Jay-Z: “Nirvana Stopped Hip-Hop…”

For Pharrell's upcoming coffee table book The Places and Spaces I’ve Been, the multi-talented Williams finds himself sharing conversations with the likes of Buzz Aldrin, Kanye West, Anna Wintour, NIGO and even Jay-Z to name a few. While many of the conversations in the book find most people discussing how they go about their daily routines, Skateboard P and Hov took things for an interesting turn, as the two went on to share the impact Nirvana's single "Smells Like Teen Spirit" had on hip-hop. Jay-Z went on to share:

First we got to go back to before grunge and why grunge happened. Hair bands' dominated the airwaves and rock became more about looks than about actual substance and what it stood for—the rebellious spirit of youth....That's why "Teen Spirit" rang so loud because it was right on point with how everyone felt, you know what I'm saying?

Jay then followed up by sharing that grunge actually stalled the rise of hip-hop, going on to say:

It was weird because hip-hop was becoming this force, then grunge music stopped it for one second, ya know? Those 'hair bands' were too easy for us to take out; when Kurt Cobain came with that statement it was like, "We got to wait awhile." I have always been a person who was curious about the music and when those forces come on the scene, they are inescapable. Can't take your eyes off them, can't stop listening to them. [Cobain] was one of those figures. I knew we had to wait for a second before we became that dominant force in music.

The two's conversation then led into talks about '90s hip-hop, the death of The Notorious B.I.G., and what makes a great record, which will all be available in the book. Pharrell's The Places and Spaces I’ve Been will be available October 16 through Rizzoli, and pre-orders are available now through Amazon.